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Doug Pagitt Does it Again! June 26, 2008

Filed under: Church, Missions, Theology, culture — johnsorrell @ 10:13 pm

Buy this book. Amazing! Stunning! Profound! Life-Changing!

 

A Christianity Worth Believing offers an engaging, ‘come-with-me-on-a-journey-of-exploring-the-possibilities’ approach to what it means to be a follower of Jesus in our day. Written by Doug Pagitt—a leading voice in the Emergent conversation—this beautifully written book weaves together theological reflections, Christian history, and his own story of faith transformation.

Pagitt invites readers to follow him as he tells the story of his un-churched childhood, his life-altering conversion at age 16, his intense involvement in the church, and his growing sense of unease with the version of Christianity he was living. On page after page, Pagitt lays out his journey toward an authentic, passionate expression of a faith that feels alive, sustainable, and meaningful.

A Christianity Worth Believing is for the growing numbers of people who have serious and thoughtful questions about Christianity, who have lived for years with deep-seated wondering and doubts about their faith. Pagitt points the way to a new kind of faith by asking the “off-limits” questions about God, Jesus, sin, the Bible, humanity, church, and the Kingdom of God. Rather than rehashing old debates, he offers new insights, provocative possibilities, and hopeful alternatives.

In A Christianity Worth Believing you may well discover questions you didn’t think you could ask, ideas you didn’t think you could pursue, beliefs you didn’t think you could hold onto. Ultimately you will discover a Christianity worth believing.

Here’s Doug promoting the book. Take a look…

 

 

New SBC President June 11, 2008

Filed under: Church, Theology — johnsorrell @ 9:05 am

Johnny Hunt quote from the 2007 SBC Pastor’s Conference:

By the way, aren’t you grateful, that there’s hope? Listen to me carefully, its important we understand this convention. There’s hope for everyone in Jesus. Everyone. Everyone. Not a select group. Everyone.

Someone says, ‘Pastor you believe that you’re the elect?’ I sure am. Everybody that gets in is the elect; and he’s elected all of us. I believe everyone can be saved. Anyone can come to Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

Someone said, “I don’t think you ought to preach like that.” Well, I just hope no one gets saved that’s not supposed to.

I’m serious. We better get away from that and get back to the book and invite everyone to come to Christ! Just preach it! Invite everybody! Tell everyone!

Here are some links to some commentaries on Hunt’s statements:

Hunt on Election

Hunt and the Doctrines of Grace

Johnny Hunt on the Sovereignty of God

 

Scot McKnight on Evangelicalism May 19, 2008

Filed under: Theology — johnsorrell @ 2:14 pm

I read this on his blog today and had to post it here.

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Two recently published items illustrate the “evangelical” problem — David Wells’ grumpy summary screed of his four volumes that, for over a decade, have attempted to reveal how superficial evangelicalism is and the generously-spirited Evangelical Manifesto. What is happening? Let me explain it this way:
There are too many today who want to usurp control over evangelicalism by demanding uniformity in theology. Evangelicalism never has been and never will be uniform in theology. Three groups today threaten to destroy the fabric of historic American evangelicalism:

The Religious Right, which seems to think all evangelicals have the same political views;
The Neo-Reformed, who think Calvinism is the only faithful form of evangelicalism; and
The Political Progressives, who like the Religious Right think the faithful form of evangelicalism will be politically progressive.

Let me offer a peace offering into this unfortunate turn of events. I believe the threat of complete disintegration is far more serious than many today seem to realize.

Evangelicalism has always been ecumenical for the sake of the gospel.

Evangelicalism has always dropped theological distinctives (confessional level statements of faith) for the sake of the gospel.

Evangelicalism’s approach has always been more like George Whitefield than Jonathan Edwards.

Now a few words of explanation:

Evangelicalism is essentially “gospel ecumenism” instead of “theological conformity.” Evangelicals unite around the gospel but tolerate all kinds of diversity theologically. Thus, from the time I’ve been around this theological issue — and I began reading this stuff in the 70s and have not stopped — evangelicalism has agreed to agree on the basics — the gospel — but has been willing to let theological confessions be what they are: church confessions for local congregations. Instead of haggling over theological confessions, evangelicals have agreed to agree on the gospel.

It is essentially “cooperative” rather than “confessional.” Yes, evangelicals — as Bebbington and Noll have made so abundantly clear (see M. Noll’s The Rise of Evangelicalism and Bebbington’s The Dominance of Evangelicalism) — there are four hubs of thinking in the center of evangelicalism: the Bible, the cross, conversion, and active Christian living.

What alarms me is that some of those today most concerned with taking over evangelicalism, namely the Neo-Reformed and the Southern Baptists, seem to have forgotten the last fifty years of evangelical history: Many in the Reformed camp didn’t think and still don’t think evangelicalism is their kettle of fish. Thus, Hart’s book is a good example of this (see his Deconstructing Evangelicalism). And the SBC was at best a distant “member” of the early rise of the neo-evangelical movement shaped by Billy Graham, Wheaton, and the likes of Harold Ockenga, Carl Henry, Harold Lindsell and others.

To be sure, a robust Reformed faith or a clear commitment to the SBC way of life were more than welcome, as long as the cooperative spirit of a commitment to an ecumenical gospel was what guided the participation. Today many seem to have forgotten this.

Hence, I love what I’m reading now in An Evangelical Manifesto.

1. It welcomes a universality to the presence of evangelicals throughout the world (p. 2).
2. It believes the word “evangelical” is worth saving (2-3).
3. It embraces a world setting where co-existence is paramount (3).
4. It defines “evangelical” by “gospel” (4) and theologically (4).
5. There is some humility to this statement: “We do not claim that the Evangelical principle … is unique to us” (5). We illustrate our own doctrine of sin (6).
6. There is a healthy balance of theology and praxis in this document.
7. It affirms classical christology, salvation, Holy Spirit, Scripture, discipleship and evangelism and social action, return of Christ, and also discipleship for all. [Could be more Trinitarian and have a deeper ecclesiology.]
8. Evangelicalism here is defined as larger than, deeper than, and older than Protestantism (10).
9. It bemoans failures among evangelicals (11ff).

I could go on … this is historic evangelicalism. It’s the kind I embrace.

 

Reveal: Where Are You? April 30, 2008

Filed under: Church, Theology — johnsorrell @ 9:08 pm

I’m currently reading the “Reveal” book from Willow Creek. It’s really opening my eyes to so much that I felt I should have known about the church and ministry, but never fully realized.

Essentially, about 4 years ago Willow Creek began an in-depth survey of their congregation to see how their involvement in church “activities” aligned with their spiritual growth. You might be saying that’s an impossible study, but you’d be wrong. They have done it and they have done it with excellence.

Here’s what they found:

They also created a “spiritual continuum” chart that showed the stages of spiritual maturity:

They found that as people progressed along this continuum, they began to view the church differently. This survey revealed that people went from seeing the church as a vehicle that fed their spiritual growth to seeing it as a place of service and volunteer leadership.

Click here to read more. It’s worth your time.

 

Don’t Eat the Glue! April 27, 2008

Filed under: Theology — johnsorrell @ 9:54 pm

Phil Vischer was the last speaker at the Willow Creek Conspire conference. He ended the conference with this amazing statement:

Your ministry to kids doesn’t start with an X-box and a big screen TV. It doesn’t start with a job description written by a senior pastor. It doesn’t start with facilities and a budget. It doesn’t even start with a great conference filled with tips and “best practices.”
Your ministry to kids starts with God’s love. Not his love for kids – his love for you.
Christ is calling to you – to “all you who are weary and burdened.” Bring your burdens to the cross – and lay them down. Let them go. Then stay there – at the cross – resting in God’s love. Not his “love for the world” in abstract, but his very real love for YOU.

This word is so encouraging for many reasons. As a minister to children you are constantly fighting against pragmatism. With children it’s easy to manipulate them to come on Sundays. Sure, you can have a row of video games and LCD’s, but that leaves them hollow and empty inside if that’s the only reason they’re coming. It’s encouraging to realize that God’s love for you and then through you to the kids is the sole resource in ministry that can fill that emptiness.

 

Mapping Ecclesiology April 17, 2008

Filed under: Church, Theology — johnsorrell @ 2:14 pm

I saw this chart on a blog recently. I thought it was somewhat interesting. It attempts to map leaders and where they fit between the fundamentalist and emergent camps ecclesiologically.

Simply because the left is void of names, I’d add Al Mohler and John Piper under MacArthur. To the far left I might put someone like Richard Land or RC Sproul.